Open Thread for Trash Talking

OK, if you want to trash talk between USC, Texas, Notre Dame, or somebody else do it right here. Anything violent, racist, or otherwise uncool will be deleted. Run-of-the-mill idiocy will be allowed.

If you have official voter tips, post 'em over here.

Kari Chisholm | November 22, 2005 | Comment on This Post (44 so far) Permalink: Open Thread for Trash Talking

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I like the new site. Way to stick it to the man! ;)

-Pemby

Posted by: Pemby | Nov 25, 2005 7:08:36 PM

vince young throws like my grandma

and the Big XII just plain sucks. Do I have to explain why?

Posted by: Ken | Nov 25, 2005 10:16:24 PM

Dear Stiffarmtrophy,
I am very happy to see your website up and running. Your website helped me last season in the predication of Matt's stiffarmtrophy. I just want to say that I am a huge Trojan fan(That because I am a student at USC.) And I hope and think that Reggie will and should win the stiffarmtrophy because what he brings on the field. Vince Young is a great player don't get me wrong, and I am not trying to talk trash against VY, but his coach his screwing his chances of winning this trophy. Also,I just don't like Mack "Cry Baby" Brown. It's unbeliveable that a Coach will do anything to get the way he wants. Example:2004 Cal went to the holiday bowl instead of the Rose bowl because of Mack crying for votes. True that Cal got outplayed by Texas Tech. Because of the result of the holiday game many of you will say, "Well, that is the reason they(CAL)didn't deserve to play in the RB.
The point is that its the principal. That a "Man" like Mack Brown is crying for votes to play in the BCS game because he can not beat an OU team?Another example is Today the 25th of November, after Texas barly survived against aTm. Many thought that VY will have a great game against the worst pass defense in the country, which will help increase his(VY)stats.
But VY had a horrible game on national television. And what does Mack Brown do to "help" his player. Mack said that "there should be two stiffarmtrophy winners." This shows what kind of a coach and a person. Knowing that his best player lost the trophy to a better player and not admitting it. I had all the respect for the Texas program when it was losing to OU during that streak. But when Texas fans come in to blogs and disrespect what USC has done the last three years. That made me think and maybe second guess the way true Texas fans are truly are. I give respect to every opponent and I don't want to even think about Texas in the Rose bowl, because we have FUCLA next week. Just make sure to keep your coach in check.

Class of 2007
FIGHT ON
BEAT THE BRUINS!!!!
Frank

Posted by: Frank | Nov 26, 2005 12:22:09 AM

I think All three of the leading contenders would be worthy winners but I have never seen anything quite like the campaign against Matt Leinhart by certain talking heads and talk show callers. What has he done to lose this award? Pete Carroll says he has better than last year. Does anyone remember the long pass on 4th down to set up the win against ND this year? If you took Bush off the USC team they still have LenDale White to run and good wideouts to catch Leinhart's passes. Take away Leinhart and ask yourself: Are they undefeated with their poor defense? So why is it that Bush is projected with 70% of the vote, Young with 22%, Leinhart battling Brady Quinn for third place with 3% of the vote. Bush has had some great games, some just average. Young has been great-except vs. A&M-but he plays in the very weak Big 12. Those who have campaigned with such passion for Bush and Young, and against Leinhart, should look in the mirror and examine their biases.

Posted by: Dave | Nov 26, 2005 4:25:29 PM

Take away Bush and the Trojans are a 2-loss team right now (or do you honestly think any other player in college football could do what Bush did against Notre Dame and Fresno State?).

Posted by: Underbruin | Nov 27, 2005 4:09:44 PM

I believe we should shorten the name of your site to "Stiftrophy.com" (sort of like muscular stiftrophy), and when the winner of the trophy is declared, we should acknowledge that he finally has won himself a "STIFFY".

You know, like a Grammy, or an Emmy, only in this case, a "Stiffy". Archie Griffin is luckier than most, in his lifetime, he got two stiffies. I have yet to get a stiffy.
I am getting sued for divorce for it, too.

By the way, Vince Young bloze goats, and that's the only way he'll ever get a stiffy of his own.

USC rules, Texas, well, they look OK for a pre-modern team.

Think I'll go and try to hunt up some more votes for Reggie Bush so that he can have his very own stiffy.

vienlaw.

Posted by: Steve | Nov 27, 2005 4:56:33 PM

you condoms are overated, ND had you beat, but the ref
couldnt spot the ball properly, UCLA will take you
down this week, if not Bevo will stick a horn up your
a.............

HOOK EM

Posted by: ron jermy | Nov 28, 2005 9:24:05 AM

USC has extablished themselves as the best team in America. So what if they were pushed to the edge by Fresno State. Only a team like them would have been able to make that comeback. As for the Notre Dame game, there is nothing I have to say except watch the dame tape because the ball is spotted correctly. Leinhart is a better candidate than Vince Young, but I think Bush is the undisputable winner. There has not been an athlete like him in 10 years. If he doesn't win the Heisman there should be a congressional investigation

Posted by: Trojan MAAAAAAN | Nov 28, 2005 12:43:43 PM

USC has extablished themselves as the best team in America. So what if they were pushed to the edge by Fresno State. Only a team like them would have been able to make that comeback. As for the Notre Dame game, there is nothing I have to say except watch the dame tape because the ball is spotted correctly. Leinhart is a better candidate than Vince Young, but I think Bush is the undisputable winner. There has not been an athlete like him in 10 years. If he doesn't win the Heisman there should be a congressional investigation

Posted by: Trojan MAAAAAAN | Nov 28, 2005 12:44:12 PM

USC has extablished themselves as the best team in America. So what if they were pushed to the edge by Fresno State. Only a team like them would have been able to make that comeback. As for the Notre Dame game, there is nothing I have to say except watch the dame tape because the ball is spotted correctly. Leinhart is a better candidate than Vince Young, but I think Bush is the undisputable winner. There has not been an athlete like him in 10 years. If he doesn't win the Heisman there should be a congressional investigation

Posted by: Trojan MAAAAAAN | Nov 28, 2005 12:45:47 PM

If USC is a two loss team without Reggie Bush, how many losses does Texas have without Vince Young? Can you say Nebraska type record?

Yes, Reggie has saved USC a few times but that's a combination of good coaching, good play calling, and great athletes. And Matt Leinart is the most underated player in college football simply because he shares the backfield with Reggie Bush.

Posted by: Trojan4Life | Nov 29, 2005 8:43:25 AM

Stick with me now, this was in todays LA Times. The last LA team to have a 33 game win streak were the 1972 Lakers. That streak was ended by the Bucks. Leading scorer for that team was number 33 Abdul-Jabbar who happened to go to UCLA. Now USC has a 33 game win streak....33,33,33 or 666. Yes its a sign that not only will USC lose, well you know the rest.

Posted by: P-5 | Nov 29, 2005 2:24:25 PM

One thing that I find amazing about Bush is that he plays on a team that has so many productive offensive weapons. He shares the backfield with another 1000 yard rusher. He shares receptions with one 1000 yard receiver and another that has 900+ yards. Leinart is a 3000+ yard passer, so he spreads the ball around pretty well. White and Jarrett have a million TDs, but Bush is the one who still is head and shoulders above the rest of the team. He can still "get his numbers" while sharing playing time.

Also, for more votes for the H------, I would bet that all of the former USC winners, Garrett, C. White, Simpson, Allen, Palmer, and Leinart will have Bush #1, Leinart #2, and either Jarrett or L. White #3. So that is 6 more first place votes for Reggie.

Posted by: Avenging Disco Godfather | Nov 30, 2005 6:26:59 AM

Matt Leinart is overrated. Evidentally ballroom dancing has turned him into a vagina. Clearly, southern cal fans can't post things once, and can't defend their cheating halfback, either. Both the trojan and longhorn players should be disqualified for running up scores on 1-AA teams like colorado. Also, SC is a dirty institution because they "educated" most of Osama Bin Laden's family, but they don't publicize that one, now do they?

Posted by: IHATESC | Dec 3, 2005 8:32:21 PM

Even a veteran LA Sports Writer was ooohhhhhing at Reggie's runs yesterday v. UCLA, and Bill Plaschke also wrote that in the press box, a Boston Globe sportswriter took out his ballot in the second quarter and voted for Reggie.

Sorry don't have the link right here - but go to www.latimes.com, and then click on Sports and then USC under teams.

"Early in the second quarter, at the far end of the press box, Mark Blaudschun of the Boston Globe pulled out the express-mail envelope containing his ballot and voted for Bush."

Here is the first page of the article if you want to read it all:

Best.

Tom

December 4, 2005 latimes.com : Sports Single page Print E-mail story

Bill Plaschke:
In Run-Up to a Vote, Bush Surely Makes His Case

December 4, 2005 latimes.com : Sports Single page Print E-mail story

Bill Plaschke:
In Run-Up to a Vote, Bush Surely Makes His Case
The Hollywood sign looming beyond one end zone, the downtown skyline shimmering above the other, the players stepped into a perfect afternoon in a city up for grabs.

Then Reggie Bush took it.

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He faked it into the deep green grass, juked it across the fresh white chalk, sprinted past it, ducked under it, somersaulted over it, and took it.

Made a deposit with a gumby dash that caused pokey defenders to bang their heads together like three stooges. Closed with an Olympic-style sprint that included a high hurdle and a three-meter dive.

Gained 100 yards in the first 11 minutes. Gained 260 total yards despite carrying only six times in the second half.

Signed it with two touchdowns. Sealed it with USC's 66-19 victory over UCLA.

And, now, today, Reggie Bush owns Los Angeles, the way Shaq and Gibby and the Great One once owned it, with power and grace and ahhhhs.

The only difference being, none of those guys ever finished a game directing a marching band while holding a rose between his teeth.

"This is everything someone could dream of," Bush said Saturday after leading the USC musicians in serenading thousands of Trojan fans in the Coliseum's early evening chill.

It's certainly everything a city could dream of, serving as a stage for an athlete so solidly good, he doesn't need swagger or smack talk or even tattoos to prove it.

He even has the good manners to adorn his new purchase with a Heisman Trophy.

Yes, Bush won it two weeks ago against Fresno State, but it was officially engraved Saturday, as, for the final time, he wowed voters both nationally and in his own huddle.

Early in the second quarter, at the far end of the press box, Mark Blaudschun of the Boston Globe pulled out the express-mail envelope containing his ballot and voted for Bush.

After the game, downstairs at the other end of the stadium, Matt Leinart essentially did the same.

Walking into the interview room, hearing a question about the game's effect on the award for Bush, Leinart shouted, "It won it for him!"

Leinart, who was last year's winner, later added definitively for the first time, "Reggie's got my vote. In all honesty, he deserves it."

Bush won the Heisman by carrying the Heisman, lifting Leinart after the quarterback missed on his first five passes, overthrew on twice that many attempts and was generally average to awful.

On the Trojans' first drive, Bush carried the ball on six of their 10 positive plays, including a 28-yard run in which he faked Bruin cornerback Trey Brown into running in the opposite direction.

On USC's second drive, Bush gained more than half of their 80 yards on runs featuring broken tackles and twisted ankles.

On their third scoring drive, which essentially ended the game before midafternoon, Bush sprinted outside for 65 yards to lead to a touchdown that made it 17-0.

(end of p 1)

Posted by: Tom Schiff | Dec 4, 2005 8:07:22 AM

Wow, Mr. IHateSC, there is almost a coherent thought in that crap you posted. Let's see. Leinart overrated. Hmmm, sure. He only is the Pac-10's all-time TD leader, in a pass happy conference, and has only lead his team to, what, two undefeated seasons and has only one defeat to his name? Yep. Definitely overrated.

And as for Texas and USC blowing out I-AA teams. Why should they let up? If you were a coach, would you tell your kids to not play as hard? That's an insult to everyone.

Also, about USC educating one of Bin Ladin's relatives. First, so what? Are members of his family terrorists? Aren't they given the liberty of being innocent until proven guilty? Plus, where's your source that USC educated them? I could make just as outlandish claims about your alma mater, if you have one.

IHateSC, you are one sad individual.

Posted by: The Truth | Dec 4, 2005 4:57:54 PM

Bush will probably win the H------ because of the short-sightedness and insufficient long-term memory capability of the voters. Is Bush a good, sensational player? Absolutely! Is Bush a comparatively better player than Young? Absoulutely Not! Is Bush as much of an asset to his team as Young? "NEVA"!!! Go ahead and gloat in Bush's H------ 2005 victory all of you adrenalin-deficient Bush fans because Mr. Bush certainly supplements your deficiency. However, if this site is still live on January 5, 2006 (this is my first year visiting it, so I don't know)I'll visit you here and help you nurse your wounds.

Ciao
alrac

Posted by: alrac | Dec 7, 2005 7:26:54 AM

"Only a team like them would have been able to make that comeback?"

Count how many times VY has pulled Texas from the brink of defeat and get back to me, Trojan MAAAAAAN. (I won't even mention the push.)

And Frank, I think the principLE of bowl games is having the best teams in the best bowls. After a poor showing against OU, many people were overlooking Texas at the end of the season, and, while I thought his methods strange, Mack did what was necessary to earn his outstanding team a well-deserved berth, and they didn't disappoint (much unlike Cal). Also, I'm sure "FUCLA" is a little nickname USC uses, but don't ridicule Texas fans for "disrespecting" USC and then turn around and dish it out yourself.

Finally, although the A&M game didn't do him any favors, I think VY is deserving of the trophy. He has moves that nearly match Reggie's (yes, I've seen them and I'm consistently impressed... minus the ND push), but also possesses Leinart's leadership skills and an equally-impressive arm. Overall, I consider him to be the most impressive player all-around on the field and well-deserving of the trophy.

P.S. I'd like to apologize for the fact that so many ignorant, rude, and quite apparently intellectually-disabled Longhorn fans have access to a computer and managed to find this site and flaunt their idiocy on it. Although Ken isn't much better.

Posted by: Alex | Dec 7, 2005 2:24:42 PM

Gee, Alex.
I can understand your frustration. However, Vince does not compare to Leinart. Vince is rude and belligerant--certainly not the traits of a Heisman. And plus, I don't think Reggie's moves can in any way be compared to VY. To do so is an insult, well--to your own intellect. But, like I said before: You seem to be trying to compensate for something VY lacks. PS> Try not to deride your fellow TExans intellectual demeanor, for it also reflects upon you.

Posted by: Roger | Dec 7, 2005 8:47:47 PM

Vince Young is a very good player, I will admit that much. But he does not come close to being the exciting player that Bush is, or the leader that Leinart is. (And it's just painfull to watch Young throw! Can anyone say mechanics?) And as for USC dishing out crap talk, we dish it all out AFTER we win our games. And maybe theres an exception to rilvary games. Don't tell me you don't talk smack about Oklahoma. I mean you have to, this year is the first time you've beaten them in how many years? See you in Pasadena!
Fight On!

Posted by: Mark | Dec 8, 2005 8:37:21 AM

Hey Mark:

If you think it's painful to watch Vince throw NOW, just wait till he torches your team's @#$ on January 4. Then it's *really* gonna hurt.

Posted by: Jan | Dec 8, 2005 10:10:24 AM

Jan,

See that's what USC fans have heard the past 3 years now. First Iowa in the Orange Bowl..."Oh, USC is a finesse team from the West Coast. They haven't seen a powerful Big Ten team. We'll run over their ass." Result? USC 38 - Iowa 17. Then it was Michigan. "USC is overrated. They lost to Cal, a weak team. We will destroy USC" Result? USC 28 - Michigan 14. Next up was the mighty Big 12 and Oklahoma. "Oh poor USC. Oklahoma has the returning Heisman winner and Adrian Peterson, the freshman phenom. Plus, USC has never faced a Big 12 running game or defense. I feel sorry for them." Result? USC 55 - OU 19.

It looks like people have the wonderful habit of writing checks that their team can't cover. Talk your smack. USC will be ready. We might not win, but Texas will not blow us out. USC has been there, done that. This is not the 1st NC game USC's played. This is not the 1st really big game for the team.

Posted by: Avenging Disco Godfather | Dec 8, 2005 10:42:58 AM

IT'S MATT LEINART OR SHOULD BE. BOTH BUSH AND LEINART WILL BE STARS IN THE NFT. WHO THROWS THE PASSES? WHO HANDS THE BALL TO BUSH? HOW RUNS THE USC OFFENCE? LEINART..... YOUNG IS GOOD, BUT WOULD BE DRAFTED BY THE SAINTS. HE A REPLICA OF THEIR QB BROOKS, AND THE SAINTS WOULD PUT YOUNG ON THE BENCH. WHY. SEEMS THEY DON'T WANT TO WIN. THEY TRADED DELHOMME AND HE'S NOW A STARTER. BROOKS STRUGGLES 9 OUT OF 10 GAMES. BUT THE SAINTS STILL STICK WITH HIM. YOUNG WILL BE A STAR IF DRAFTED BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE SAINTS, BECUASE, AS MENTIONED, THE SAINGS WILL STICK WITH AN ERATIC BROOKS.

Posted by: BILL | Dec 9, 2005 4:52:05 AM

"Another example is Today the 25th of November, after Texas barly survived against aTm.[29-40]" Very good point and also of note along the very same lines Liberty Bowl invitee Fresno State at 8-4 is the same team against whom USC barely survived [50-42] and Fresno State then went onto lose to the always powerful Louisiana Tech team 40-28. In actuality the Lousiana Tech team defeated FS by a larger margin than occured in the USC vs FS game. I see the point made in the outstanding Bush performance against Fresno State. No doubt a major H------ statement. oh puh - leeze. who is the most valuable player? Could USC win against Fresno State without Bush? Probably not. ha!

Posted by: Mark | Dec 9, 2005 6:47:49 AM

Bush is a great athlete and has tremendous speed but if it wasnt for White, Leinhart, the o-line and a good group of recievers he wouldnt be the player that he is. USC's offence is revolved around Leinhart and the only reason Young is preferred over Leinhart is because he is two dimensional I think the media is making it worse by talking smack and not really looking in debth at the situation. I think young should win but since he did sit out against a couple opponents then the stiff arm trophy belongs to Matt Leinhart

Mike Vick is overrated!!!

Posted by: clovertexasballer | Dec 9, 2005 7:46:59 AM

Brady Quinn should be in New York over Matt Lienart!!!!!

Posted by: Ronnie | Dec 9, 2005 9:57:32 AM

Whiner Mack Brown and the texas shorthorns Whined,cried, and begged their way to the Rose Bowl last year. USC is going to DEHORN them this year and then their slogan will be "BUTT UM",because they will not be able to hook um any more.
GO SC

Posted by: Wild Bill | Dec 9, 2005 10:12:20 AM

Hey Ronnie you are right. Quinn should be in the big apple,but only to carry Lineart's jock strap for him. GO SC

Posted by: Wild Bill | Dec 9, 2005 10:18:11 AM

Mason Crosby for the ole Stiff Arm! He's the best college kicker since...ever!

Posted by: the unit | Dec 9, 2005 11:45:34 AM

Brady Quinn should win the "Stiff Arm Trophy" because he is the best QB in the nation and has done more with less talent around him and if it weren't for Reggie Bush helping Leinart across the end zone USC wouldn't even be #1 in the country right now! USC is like the Denver Broncos of college football, you can stick anyone in that system and they'll look like the best player in the country!

Posted by: Dan | Dec 9, 2005 12:26:31 PM

Hey Dan
That is just further proof of why Reggie Bush will be and should be this years Stiffarm winner. That was fast thinking for him to help Leinart ( Who would have scored anyway ) score. That is done on every Quarterback sneak play as we ALL know. Notre Dame was not playing very fair by letting the grass grow to 6 inches to try to slow SC down. SC would have beat them by 25 on short grass. It is also very dangerous for the players to have the grass that long. Quit CRYING and get ready to take another whipping next Thanksgiving. GOOOO SC

Posted by: Wild Bill | Dec 9, 2005 2:51:30 PM

When was the last time Notre Dame beat USC? Thought so. When was the last time they won the National Title? Thought so. They are not on the same page with SC right now.
Fight On!

Posted by: Mike | Dec 9, 2005 5:43:26 PM

To see Reggie Bush run is poetry in motion. Reggie is the man. Thank you Reggie Bush for the memories! Youall remember last years Orange Bowl? Fight On!!!

Posted by: EdSC | Dec 10, 2005 12:45:32 PM

Roger,

How do my comments about my "fellow Texans" reflect on me? If its a negative reflection on my intellect, I can point you to the five full scholarship offers I've received, or my 2340 SAT score, both of which I think are better indicators (yes I'm in high school. No, I don't expect you to care).

And I'd appreciate it if you'd clarify how Young is either rude or belligerant, as I've yet to see an instance of either. But even if he doesn't win the trophy, Texas fans can still look forward to him torching USC's defense.

Mark, whether or not you like Young's mechanics, it's hard to argue with the top pass efficiency rating in the nation and the O’Brien he picked up Thursday night.

BILL, caps lock is right between tab and shift. Turn it off.

Posted by: Alex | Dec 10, 2005 12:56:14 PM

The USC won/loss record is 45 wins against only 1 loss since Oct.6,2002.In those 45 victories, only 5 were decided by less than a touchdown. WHAT a RECORD. Coach Carrol has a record at SC of 42-9,and Leinart has a record of 37-1 as a starter.Nobody or any institution in the last 45 years can match those numbers. Bush and the Trojan offence really are poetry in motion. The Trojan "D" always rises to the occasion, plus a number of their injured will be back.
GOOO SC

Posted by: Wild Bill | Dec 10, 2005 2:53:24 PM

Reggie Bushleaguer puts up 513 on lowly Fresno St to take the lead in the race then admits he ran on them for the yards to pad his totals, a Fresno team that gives up 325 yds rushing a game and 190 passing a game and lost to Nevada 35-38....then he brags about pushing Leinart into the end zone against ND a clear NCAA rules violation. This is your projected H....... winner ? He never paased the ball, Vince Young has 26 TDs to 18 for Bushleaguer and Vince can run and pass and has some 800 yds plus rushing almost half of the total Bushleaguer has had all season !!! Vince Young may be the greatest player since Jim Thorpe in college football !!!

Posted by: john | Dec 10, 2005 3:05:58 PM

John you should look at the facts before you start talking thru your ass. "Lowly Fresno State" as you called them has a better won/loss record than a big majority of the teams the Texican Shorthorns played this year.There is an old saying out west, A match box is all you need to bury a texican in after you kick the SHIT out of him.What will be your excuse after Heisman Bush puts up 300 yds. and White another 150 on those Texican Shorthorns next month?
GOOOO SC

Posted by: Wild Bill | Dec 10, 2005 3:55:12 PM

momrnt of truth, any of you texacans want to lay a buck on your guy?

Posted by: EdSC | Dec 10, 2005 5:05:19 PM

Did'nt think so.

Posted by: EdSC | Dec 10, 2005 5:09:20 PM

Hey Longhorns, who just won the H------ Trophy? See you on the 4th. Bring your tissues.

Posted by: Jack | Dec 10, 2005 7:07:55 PM

WE'RE TEXAS

Posted by: God | Dec 12, 2005 10:00:19 AM

Hey God
SO!!!!! WE'RE USC and PLAN TO BE 13-0 AFTER JAN.4th . All of the injured defensive players will be back and ready to kick butt.The " D " never gets any credit, But NO team has beat them yet.
GOOOOO SC

Posted by: Wild Bill | Dec 13, 2005 2:38:39 PM

Matt Leinart was finally exposed tonight by Texas...I've been saying since the start of the season that this guy was overrated. It seems to me that some quarterbacks get alot more credit than they deserve. Matt was always a role player and never a great QB and it will show once he hits the NFL...That bum was surrounded by very good receivers and he had Reggie Bush to help him keep defenses on edge...well tonight his luck has finally ran out...Vince Young made Leinart look like a Junior High Quarterback. He's just another overrated pretty boy quarterback, like the kid for Nebraska a few years ago that won the trophy and never took a snap in the NFL.

Posted by: Leromme | Jan 4, 2006 10:50:21 PM

I think Troy Smith has won the Stiff Arm Trophy. Noone else has shown such clutch performances all year long and TS has by far played the best football of any player out there. He does not have the gaudiest stats ever, but has played as a true team player. Noone has the winning attitude and leadership skills that TS possesses.

I give props to McFadden, that TSUN Running Back and the Hawaiian QB. Noone else is close. Brady Quinn is a pretty good quarterback from the suburbs of Columbus. He's good, but nowhere near my man Troy.

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